User talk:Jason

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Welcome

Welcome to Template Wiki! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Brandon CS Sanders (talk) 21:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jason :) Possible to neatly nest text?

I'm wondering what the formatting/punctuation is to create a section that you can expand and collapse -- I like being able to focus the view without the clutter of other sections. Thanks! ... How do you do signature?

Hi Somethingsea. Let me see if I can create a template or set of templates for collapsing text. Also, you add your signature by either clicking on the third button in the edit toolbar or by entering four tildes ("~~~~") at the end of your comment. -Jason (talk) 08:11, 16 March 2015 (PDT)
Hello! Thank you! I also read just now that creating more than 4 headings creates a TOC. Is that the same thing?Somethingsea (talk) 08:24, 16 March 2015 (PDT)
Nope! Sure ain't! Somethingsea (talk) 08:29, 16 March 2015 (PDT)
This is different. Yes, TOCs are displayed automatically once a few sections headings are added. This can be suppressed by adding "__NOTOC__" to the page. I am still working on the collapse template. I would go ahead and start adding content and we can worry about collapsing/formatting afterwards. -Jason (talk) 08:31, 16 March 2015 (PDT)
The coding gets a little more complicated, but you can see an example of how to add title text at Wikipedia. Hopefully as this project grows it will attract editors with more coding experience than me! -Jason (talk) 09:05, 16 March 2015 (PDT)
Thanks! I'll try stuff out while I add ;) Somethingsea (talk) 09:25, 16 March 2015 (PDT)

Backing up the wiki?

Per the ToU and the data here not being saved, how would this site be backed up? Is there a common and easy method? Somethingsea (talk) 09:48, 20 March 2015 (PDT)

The wikis are backed up, but we do not guarantee data preservation in perpetuity for liability purposes. The company must protect itself from litigation if, for example, someone wanted data from a wiki that was abandoned, etc. I'm afraid I don't have a recommendation regarding external backup options, but we have developer/tech staff to ensure backups occur regularly. -Jason (talk) 10:31, 20 March 2015 (PDT)
Ok. That makes sense. Thank you :) Somethingsea (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2015 (PDT)

Illegality not an issue?

You mentioned that advocating weed would not be an issue. Could you expound on that? Is it that there's a difference between advocation and providing? Would providing links to weed sites, for example, be crossing the line? Somethingsea (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2015 (PDT)

Wiki.Wiki includes an entire wiki about weed. As long as the sites are not breaking rules, you should not worry about informational content related to cannabis. -Jason (talk) 20:25, 20 March 2015 (PDT)
Thank you. Somethingsea (talk) 14:37, 23 March 2015 (PDT)

Numerical Interaction between user pages and main page?

Is it possible to have text at the user pages correlate to the main page? I want to see and show where and how much consensus lies with each sentence, statement, and word on the main page and user pages. So, if all user pages shared a same text as in the main page, it would all be blue. For text that had done of the user pages the same and others not, it would be green, with a number displayed with how many matched it. Somethingsea (talk) 14:57, 23 March 2015 (PDT)

I've definitely never seen something like this before. Not saying it isn't possible, but I wouldn't even know where to begin designing something like this... Sorry, wish I could be more help! -Jason (talk) 15:01, 23 March 2015 (PDT)

Been a long time!

Hello Jason! My wish for this site still remains. I've found that I can do a lot of legwork on Facebook, but it still does not do the basic combination that I would like to see. I see this as being the fundamental function that I would like to use anarchy.wiki for and with. Somethingsea (talk) 07:21, 20 July 2015 (PDT)

Equality Tracking

The ability to visualize the amount of people who agree or disagree with statements is what I want anarchy.wiki to do for me. Once that is established, the rest follows. So, do you have any ideas of how we could start experimenting with that? References? Notations? I want a number count that goes up with the number of people that agree, and optionally, a red count that goes up when people disagree, and this would branch off into discussion pages or new topic pages about the disagreement.

Hi Somethingsea. Though I find the concept intriguing, I'm afraid I wouldn't even know where to begin constructing something like this. -Jason (talk) 07:33, 20 July 2015 (PDT)

If it's possible to simply detect whether text here is equivalent with text there, then I'm pretty sure we could mangle a workable version of this thought.

For example, if this sentence was one such agreement term, then if someone wrote it on their profile, it would be hyperlinked or referenced in some way that indicates that it is common text. Perhaps simply that is enough, and the numbers could be ignored. The point is being able to highlight spots of agreement and disagreement to enable a focus for conversation. The second part is to be able to contextualize conversation to enable the combination of seemingly contrary ideas, which may or may not follow from this.

I quite agree -- I have no idea where we would start either! Since it's the entire reason for why I started up anarchy.wiki, I'd like to give a look-about to see if there's anything obvious or easy we could do. If not, there's always research! And asking friends. I bet there are wikipedia editors who would love the concept! Somethingsea (talk) 07:40, 20 July 2015 (PDT)

Bot to track and summarize agreement

So I've figured out the transdaction thing pretty well, but it would be much simpler to use a bot to search out text sections on users pages where the text is the same, and then repost that text in a consolidated page or template.

And then, secondly, to relate "is" and "is not" statements to find contradictions, and like mark them red or people or something. Somethingsea (talk) 21:14, 20 July 2015 (PDT)

Sounds interesting! I hope you can find someone who knows how to do these sorts of tasks and design features. -Jason (talk) 07:49, 21 July 2015 (PDT)

Text box for user input?

I'm trying to figure out how to code for a text box for user input. Do I need an extension like this? Somethingsea (talk) 13:27, 23 July 2015 (PDT)

Hmm, I am not sure what is needed, but this wiki already includes InputBox. See Special:Version. -Jason (talk) 13:33, 23 July 2015 (PDT)
Thank you!! Somethingsea (talk) 13:45, 23 July 2015 (PDT)

Is there a way to have the new text be put on the same page as it's entered on? Somethingsea (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2015 (PDT)

Somethingsea, I'm afraid I don't have an answer for you as I am not exactly sure what you are trying to do and my personal wiki experience is limited to just adding/editing content and not working with InputBox, or making the kinds of edits you are suggesting. Can you try to explain what you are trying to do more specifically so that, if a colleague cannot help, I can keep your goal in mind as I speak with other wiki contributors? Another option might be to post your question at https://wiki.wiki/Talk:Main_Page. My hope is that eventually Wiki.Wiki project founders and contributors will be able to use the Wiki.Wiki site itself to speak with one another, provide tips, answer questions, etc. This is the great thing about a wiki, right? -Jason (talk) 15:57, 23 July 2015 (PDT)
Thank you. I will write my question entry in a new section below.Somethingsea (talk) 21:27, 26 July 2015 (PDT)
Posted! Somethingsea (talk) 08:57, 27 July 2015 (PDT)
I don't get why on the preview the code works fine, but when I publish it, it gets all messed up. Somethingsea (talk) 20:09, 23 July 2015 (PDT)
Certainly. I want to create a entry and response system that has room for endless amounts of conversation that is interlinked. Facebook does as aspect of this, but it's limited to one level; it's useless for the conversation type I'm thinking of.
The basic first thing I want is to be able to post status updates on the user page, or a page dedicated to it, which people can respond to.
The response format is this type:
(Reshare text/status update
(Text being reshared)
(Original text))
Each status links to the one before.
It only goes three iterations, with the current status and last status, concluding with the original sentence. This way overload is perpetually prevented, and density as well as interactivity of text is amplified.
The second thing I want to do is coding consensus. This is done by finding or what text is the same and making it thusly. Agreement and disagreement is understood by this. I'm not fleshing it out because it's an entirely new concept, and I'm still figuring out how the hell it would be implemented.
Somethingsea (talk) 20:09, 23 July 2015 (PDT)
Fascinating! The preview on mobile shows the format correctly, but on the mobile version, the format goes haywire! I'm looking at this text from the computer right now and it looks just fine. Interesting!! Somethingsea (talk) 20:48, 23 July 2015 (PDT)

Visualizing The Reshare Idea

1 Status update
2 1st Respost
1 Status update
3 2nd Respost
2 1st Respost
1 Status update
4 3rd Respost
3 2nd Respost
1 Status update

And with some example text:

1 Hi, I'm somethingsea.
2 Hi. I'm Digger.
1 Hi, I'm somethingsea.
3 This is so cool!
2 Hi. I'm Digger.
1 Hi, I'm somethingsea.
4 I know!
3 This is so cool!
1 Hi, I'm somethingsea.

Now on it's own page, too ;) Somethingsea (talk) 22:37, 23 July 2015 (PDT)

Somethingsea (talk) 21:26, 23 July 2015 (PDT)

Finally. Done! Somethingsea (talk) 21:53, 23 July 2015 (PDT)

Cool! I hope you can find others to contribute to this project and expand your concept. -Jason (talk) 10:07, 28 July 2015 (PDT)

Social Site with Enhanced Resharing Query to wiki.wiki/Talk:Main_Page

Hello!

I want to make a better Facebook that is totally customizable by users if they so choose. Facebook allows you to share a new status, and to reshare statuses, but not to reshare reshared statuses along with the original link, with then all proceeding reshares to include the last two reshares and the original link. I don't like this; I think it greatly limits the ability to have conversations, as the amount of scrolling becomes insane, and conversational context is lost. In addition, I want to make a database of what users agree and disagree on, which can be consented to per privacy level.

Here's a sample of the concept:

1 Status update
2 1st Respost
1 Status update
3 2nd Respost
2 1st Respost
1 Status update
4 3rd Respost
3 2nd Respost
1 Status update

And with some example text:

1 Hi, I'm somethingsea.
2 Hi. I'm Digger.
1 Hi, I'm somethingsea.
3 This is so cool!
2 Hi. I'm Digger.
1 Hi, I'm somethingsea.
4 I know!
3 This is so cool!
1 Hi, I'm somethingsea.

The central concept behind this is being able to play with text and statuses as one would with legos. Trello shows this beautifully. The secondary but-just-as-important part is the ability to expand and contract the words, so you could, essentially, think on the fly.

But the most important thing I need to be able to do is have the ability to make entered text be templatable and codable. I'm finding that I cannot have preformatted code behind text entered into an Input Box; it shows me to the Create A Page/Template door. The alternative of leaving a commenttitle simply puts more text at the bottom of the page, with no ability to manipulate or use it in any way from what I can tell. And not a few times have I accidentally substituted my userpage text onto the main page of anarchy.wiki

Once I can manipulate the input text with some automacy, I can create the precode for a social network of sorts that has the features I'm talking about. Because then I can have it recall previous input to be included with itself. Somethingsea (talk) 22:12, 26 July 2015 (PDT)

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